Plus, they are much more versatile, perfectly acceptable for a one-rifle safari battery, while a big bore is not. I replaced them with another crf .30-06 (shoots all ammo better), a 7mm rem mag (now have two rifles in that caliber -- something I wanted), which also shoots ammo well. Over the years Ive hunted with most of the .416s and their brethren, and Ive had all of them on the range. Energy yield for both is 5,000 ft-lbs, always a good rule of thumb for the largest game. Retained as a proprietary cartridge, rifles and ammo were only available from Rigby. IIRC, you would have to order either of these chamberings without an Accubrake, as they come standard. I have been giving some thought to the new Ruger rifle and what kind of .416 it might become. The weatherby weighs 10.5 lbs. Sectional Density (SD) of the 400-grain .416 bullet is a very high .330; SD of the 400-grain .423-inch bullet is slightly lower at .319; and SDs of the 400-grain .410-inch bullet is slightly higher at .340. In late spring 1989 Ed Weatherby and I used his new cartridge in Botswana, taking several buffaloes. Cloudflare sets this cookie to improve page load times and to disallow any security restrictions based on the visitor's IP address. Ive never seen a .416 solid at 2,400 fps fail to penetrate. The elephant was taken with Barnes new homogenous alloy Super Solid, first of a whole new breed of bullets. It is updated every time data is sent to Google Analytics. The greater difference, however, is that a .416 (or similar) is much more effective on the upper end. 12. If you run toward tradition and nostalgia, then either the .416 Rigby or .404 Jeffery will have the most appeal. As near as I can tell thats just a storybut you dont want to expose any ammunition to direct sunshine, especially in hot climates. High gloss finished, walnut stock. With practice, a scoped .416 can certainly be used on plains game out to 250 yards or so, but it is not as versatile as a .375 for plains game. 11 0. There's no need to justify it. I dont have a .416 right now, but I do have a .404 Jeffery. Capacity: Floor Plate. You must log in or register to reply here. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". This cookie, set by YouTube, registers a unique ID to store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen. We will inform you when the product arrives in stock. Yeah but you don't need to mistrust one rifle just to add another. This is exactly why tens of thousands of shooters bought .300 WSMs, instead of that overly-long and clunky (not to mention, ugh, belted) .300 Winchester, which as every well-read hunter of today knows, is far less accurate and kicks much harder than the .300 WSM. The .340 Weatherby has a lot more reach than the .375 H&H, but both are wonderful cartridges. There are lots of good .416 bullets available. Shooting uphill, the 400-grain bullet entered just in front of the earhole and exited on the opposite side. In response to an Army contract, Roy Weatherby necked down his behemoth .378 Weatherby Magnum to hold .30-caliber bullets, and the result was a seriously fast cartridge. New brass was available from Jim Bells Brass Extrusion Laboratories Ltd. (BELL) and from Art Alphins A-Square. I still trust the .375. The problem is the recoil becomes too much for many of us. Even now componants are very inexpensive compared to the Rigby and correct headstamp brass is readily availible. Do you or have you participated in Competitive Shooting? The last caliber to use that casing was the .340 Weatherby Magnum. Roy Weatherby developed the .30-.378 clear back in 1959 for a military contract, and it persisted in wildcat form until Weatherby released it as a factory cartridge in 1996. The __hssrc cookie set to 1 indicates that the user has restarted the browser, and if the cookie does not exist, it is assumed to be a new session. The 460 has a trajectory of a mortar round (exaggeration here). Required fields are marked *. And it delivers over three foot tons of ME for you to use. A couple of weeks later, Peter Johnstone and I approached a bachelor group of elephants feeding in dense mopane. Further, the case is not so fat, so you should be able to fit 1 more in the mag compared to the rigby. Adopted by several African game departments, the. After he found out it would easily reach 2400fps he backed off to 2300fps loaded with 3031. Well, 2 pages of comments and no one answered the question. This is a silly argument. I realized it had been a long time since I took it to the range. By then things were changing fast. Swift A-Frame bullets are well-proven bullets around the world. All this discussion about the "felt recoil" of factory stocks seems moot. In terms of ammo availability, the .416 Rigby and Remington are the most common, probably followed by the .404 Jeffery; most of the rest are available from more limited sources. I've heard good things from all, but I've now seen the weatherby mark V in .460 weatherby magnum, Winchester safari express in .416 rem mag, cz550, Anderson wheeler .600 NE, MAUSER 98 .404 Jeffery, river NO.1 in . It was a now of never shot. I just hope your retinas are firmly attached! In 1958, Weatherby introduced his Mark V action, which was . But I am not sure why you really need another 2100 ft.lbs over a 458 lott. Ive never seen a problem, and Ive never heard a first-hand report. Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. Your email address will not be published. In 1956, he contracted with both Sako and Schultz & Larsen to manufacture complete rifles, while he continued to make custom guns in California. Developed by Roy's son, Ed, the 416 is a necked up version of the 378 exceeding the power and energy of the 416 Rigby, the 416 Remington Magnum and the 458 Winchester Magnum. Its case is a belted version of the big .416 Rigby case, meaning it requires an extra-large action. Griptonite stock with tungsten Cerakote barrel and action. I tried to work the bolt fast, but I was already too late; the elephant was down and still before I could bring the rifle to bear, and it was all over. Available in 12 and 20ga., 26 and 28" barrels. Top mounted fully adjustable Green Laser: 532nm, Max output <5mw, Class IIIA Laser. The 378 Weatherby Magnum was created as a new cartridge, with a larger case capacity and bolt face diameter. I know it is close and the .416 would have more velocity at the same weight of bullet, but the BC of the .375 is much better. Even the 378 will make you sit up and take notice. Working fast and quietly, Remington struck first in late 1988 with their .416 Remington Magnum. Available in 12 and 20ga., and a 22" barrel. I've heard of hunters shooting Cape Buffalo in spooky situations and reporting no remembered recoil. Ed Weatherby, Roy's son, designed the heavy-game cartridge by necking up the .378 Weatherby Magnum to .416. Mark I would like to buy your scope unless you have one with a red dot . Available in 12 and 20ga. Total:7,403 (members:1,016, guests:6,387). Explore and compare prices from other vendors. Available in 12 and 20ga., 3.5" chambering. ODT Junkie! However, it has never been popular. The 700's were either mediocre shooters on all ammo, or were very, very picky (shot remington factory stuff great, shot everything else very poorly). I do practice a quick second shot at the shooting range. I have not played with it in a few years, but with the high bc bullets available now, I have dusted it off. Find out the best price on in-stock 9 mm cheap bulk ammunition from more than 100 ammo stores. Griptonite stock available in multiple camo patterns. Type: All Firearms. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. Available in 12ga., 3" chambering. It may be like the tootsie pop. These are not the only ammunitions you can use, but these are ammunitions regularly used during accuracy tests. The group pictured at the bottom is a 500 grain TSX seated long at 2,640 FPS. If you are thinking .416 you might give the Wby a look. Necking up the .378 Weatherby to hold .458-inch bullets, Weatherby surpassed the energy figures of the largest cartridges, to create the most powerful cartridge of all. The .450/.400, with a 400-grain bullet at about 2,100 fps, is much slower and produces less energy, about 4,000 ft-lbs. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. If I have reason to come to mistrust it, I will go to one of the .416's. In a heavy gun with a good muzzle break I do not think recoil would be an issue. I have had two 416 Rems and both would shoot fatory 400 grain SAF ammo at over 2500 fps. I've never had the slightest trouble with the 416 Rem. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. The __hssrc cookie set to 1 indicates that the user has restarted the browser, and if the cookie does not exist, it is assumed to be a new session. Then take another box or two with you. I load mine to about 2400 fps with 400gr Swift Aframes and old style steel Hornady solids. The .378 Weatherby Magnum was designed by Roy Weatherby in 1953. YSC cookie is set by Youtube and is used to track the views of embedded videos on Youtube pages. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". Elastomer stock. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. USA. The .416s are much more shootable, especially in a rifle of adequate weight (ten pounds or more). I've done several things to it to help control the recoil, and I've had no problems shooting smaller African antelope with it, shooting it from prone positions, and in making killing shots at ranges up to 350 yds. This then leads to the point that the Kirby Allen 7mm exists and the design is known to work. (Shooting Times photo) I do know that the .416 Rigby case is only designed for around 52000 CUP and the 378 around 56000 - even though I've heard of people pushing the 378 to 65000 CUP. Spotting this ram was down to pure hunting luck at 300m. The 416 has quickly become one of the best all-around cartridges for Africa. Oct 4, 2015. The .416 Rigby is almost exclusively loaded with 400-grain bullets. Jeffery introduced their .404 in 1909. Thus, in a sense, with the .416 Weatherby we have come full circle. When I shoot a critter, I automatically chamber a second round JUST in case. Shorter 12-1/2 stock and 24 barrel. However, make no mistake, it is much more pleasant to shoot with a muzzle brake in place. Ronnie MacFarlane ground his pole into soft mud and I did the same, getting some stability with one hand while I reached for the rifle in the prow. My CZ is just now starting to show the reliability of my 700. You get near 416 Rigby performance out of th 416 Remington and when its all said and done its not a bad way to go. The 416 is a necked-down 460 Weatherby, so recoil will be on par with the larger bore. rdog wrote on Bob Nelson 35Whelen's profile. The _ga cookie, installed by Google Analytics, calculates visitor, session and campaign data and also keeps track of site usage for the site's analytics report. I have 300 rounds through it, which has punched lots of paper, taken one hare, and one gemsbuck. Just be certain that you send your ammo to your PH with enough time to confirm that it was received in good condition. Across those four decades, he forever changed the way we look at and judge firearm performance. Mag. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Compare 9mm ammo in stock prices. 5,5 mm 5,6 x 52 R 500 Jeffery . Then the 340 weatherby is just a tad slower and has some drawbacks but will have 3 in the magazine versus two with the 378's. So here is the question and dilemma I have Number 1. Any action that can handle a 375 H+H will handle the 416 Remington. I won`t hesitate to hunt anything anywhere with any of those four rifles, where "legal". Weatherby factory loads are offered with a 350 grain Barnes Tipped TSX bullet at a MV of 2880 fps and a 400 grain RN expanding bullet at a MV of 2700 fps with 6474 ft . when it's loaded properly, even in 100 + degree weather. Further, it gets the performance with about 20 grains less powder. So, take your pick, and be confident it will do the jobprovided you do yours.Craig Boddington, Main (520) 620-1220 The.416 Weatherby is much faster, with 400-grain bullet at 2,600 to 2,700 fps, yielding more than 6,000 ft-lbs. I have learned a while ago not to give up good shooters. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". 416 Taylor Improved velocity ladder complete. I had my first .416 Rigby at that time, a Dumoulin. I'm not going to mess with that load. [4] In testing Ive done in ballistic wax the .416s always out-penetrate the slower big-bores. As history progressed, Weatherby added the .224, .240, .378, and .460 Weatherby Magnum. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". 30-378 Wby 200 Partition is 9.1 low at 400 with a 300 yd 0. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". It was still a bit of a novelty when I took it to Tanzania in 1988but not for long. It is a lot faster, shooting nearly as flat as a .30-caliber magnum and developing as much energy as a .458 Lott: Spectacular! 250 gr. The .375 Remington Ultra Mag is a necked-down .404 Jeffery with the same nominal case length as the .375 H&H and Weatherby but a larger case diameter of .550-inch, with the rim is rebated to .534-inch. Matte-finished metalwork and stock. A true rifle loonie is not required to justify his choice in cartridges solely on the merits of a given cartridge. Evaluated as the strongest action in the industry. Even just the new brass is $75/ box. 470 N.E. The only issue would be ammo availability in a pinch which is why, on many blogs, you will hear the praise for the .375 Weatherby because it outperforms the .375 H&H and, if you run out of ammo it can shoot the .375 H&H. if i had a 378, the matchking would not be on the list for anything but target shooting. Even Woodleigh has come to the party with their 350-grain round soft nose in a heavy-duty version. Weatherby's cartridges have been first and foremost about speed, so when a . My only partial complaint about the .416 rem is that Ruger has quit making rifles in .416 rem, Winchester has quit making bolt actions in which I could get a .416 rem. Performance was awesome, but please note that, when you add a couple hundred more feet per second recoil goes up sharply! YouTube sets this cookie via embedded youtube-videos and registers anonymous statistical data. All Deals; Today; Categories . Residents of DE, KS, OH, and WA may have additional restrictions. Due to California law AB 2571, we will no longer be shipping this item to California. World's most popular community & resource for hunting in Africa since 2007. The rifle I shot didn't, but it was not the beastly experience some would have you believe. I am not knocking the ideal of a .375 Ruger based .416. The .338-378 has devoted fans in the long-range hunting sub-culture, but only exceeded the .340 Weatherby's muzzle velocity by 119 fps; a small reward for the huge recoil it produces. I had a 416 Rigby for a while and then I had a 416 Remington for a longer while and I liked the Remington a lot. By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. Does Weatherby recommend specific ammunition for each caliber to get the best accuracy? Available in 12 and 20ga., 3" chambering. Its big brother, the .378 Weatherby Magnum, was introduced in 1953. I would go with the .416 also. I have heard Rigby brass, loaded to the 40,000 CUP range, does indeed last forever! By 1958, he had his own Mark V Action that easily held the cartridge and two below it in the straight-feed magazine. I does have plenty, but not as much as some of the exaggerators claim. Factory-equipped choke is an extended Full and fluted for tool free removal. It works only in coordination with the primary cookie. Twin Mark V Deluxes in .378 and .460, both with Leicas. As I understand, the 416 Rem has since been dialed back from initial publicity specs. The year was 1985. __utmb cookie is created when the JavaScript library executes and there are no existing __utma cookies. The .378 is a belted .416 Rigby. By the same logic I can't see buying a .375 Ruger when the .375 is still doing its job. De .416 Weatherby Magnum gebruikt dezelfde behuizing als de .378 Weatherby Magnum en de .460 Weatherby Magnum. Shorter 12-1/2 stock and 24 barrel. After WWII the British Empire shrank rapidly as colonies gained independence. Imagine shooting 270-grain bullets at 3100 fps, and 300s at 2900 fps. The 378 Weatherby Magnum is third from the right. Shipping not available to P.O. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. I sold it to fund the CZ 550 I had rebarreled in 416 Rem but that was probably a mistake. Far from it. Reloading- What pressure signs do you stop at. Factory-equipped choke is an extended Full and fluted for tool free removal. The other 416's are equally efficient. A 400-grain .416 at 2,400 fps will generally out-penetrate, say, a 500-grain .475 bullet at 2,150 fps. Rounding things out, in mid-1989 Weatherby necked their .460 Weatherby Magnum down to .416, creating the .416 Weatherby Magnum. Able to fit into a .30-06-length action, with the propellants then available the .416 Taylor lacked the powder capacity to quite equal the .416 Rigbybut it came pretty close. Must be 18 or older to purchase rifle ammunition. TALKING TO 3 PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS- ALL SAID 416 IS THE BEST FOR DANGEROUS GAME- THE REASON I BOUGHT IT. Records the default button state of the corresponding category & the status of CCPA. The British gun trade reached its nadir, and Kynoch discontinued the big Nitro Express cartridges. Some of the data that are collected include the number of visitors, their source, and the pages they visit anonymously. Remington followed Hoffmans recipe: 400-grain bullet at 2,400 fps. My Model 70`s and CZ`s controlled feed and my "other" bolt actions have NEVER failed to feed the next round ( including WSM caliber)! The elements were against us, with rain and mist making visibility poor. The .30-378 Weatherby Magnum will drive a 180-grain bullet more than 3,300 fps. Matte finished metalwork and walnut stock. TRACKING AND RUNNING INTO A PISSED OFF 650 LB LION AT 28 YARDS IN DENSE BRUSH-AFTER SEEING HOW TOUGH THEY ARE- 400 GRAIN DID NOT PASS THRU THE LION. wyatt, it might depend on who makes the brass, and who loads it. The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. Even the Weatherby bashers, who hate them because they can't afford the one they want, secretly lust for a 378. At the risk of sounding off topic I would like to say in the Taylor's defense that the belts have never been a problem for me. Some manufacturers offer 450-grain loads, but those are few and far between. Gunwriter John Wootters was a huge fan of the .416 Taylor; largely through his urging it almost became a factory cartridge twice, but didnt quite happen. Too bad. Multiple camo patters available. while i am not man enough for the 460, i see a place for the 378 in our australian deserts. Matte finish with synthetic stock. So, the .378 Weatherby is a great round and a great gun so long as you can shoot it properly. I found that the Hornady 500 gr solids showed 2.5 inches deviation at 8:00 (very sad), whereas the 500 gr Speer AGS was 1.5" at 12:00 (which is very close to optimum by my reckoning) at 100 yards. Condition. Best, John. All current rifles are so bored, but there are also .411-inch bullets available (which is the correct diameter for the old .405 Winchester. Available in 12 and 20ga., 26" or 28" barrels. Remington offers one in their Mod 700 abg (custom shop). The rest of the group, including the more recent .500/.416 (Krieghoff), .416 Ruger (Hornady/Ruger), and current loads for the .404 Jeffery, all propel 400-grain bullets somewhere between 2,350 and 2,400 fps, with energies at or approaching 5,000 ft-lbs. I have bought several guns for no other reason than memories of articles I read growing up. John Rigby brought out his famous .416 in 1911, 410-grain bullet at fast (for the day) 2,370 fps, developing about 5,000 ft-lbs of energy. The Jeffery case could be crammed into a .375-length action. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. There are significant differences. These days there is so little dangerous game that is being hunted, what what there is of it, a 375 H+H handles it well enough. #3. .416 Ruger: 52.72: 17.56: 388: 2,528.416 Rigby: 52.49: 17.52: 400: 2,412.416 Remington Magnum: 50.46: . As for recoil, its like the old Russian proverb,"you can get used to anything, if you do it long enough, you can even get used to hanging". Just enjoy it, celebrate it! I guess out of all the .416 discussions I have seen the thing that intrigues me most is that the Taylor which offer so many advantages has never become a reality. I must be careful here. The cartridge I was using was George Hoffmans wildcat .416 Hoffman, in a time when there were no factory loads for any .416 cartridgesand few bullets. Doesn't some of the African countries still require a 40 caliber weapon or larger on the "big five" ? It may not display this or other websites correctly. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. I have a .338Win, 30-378Wthrby, two Mark V.340 wthrby's and a heavy-barreled .338/378 whtrby. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. popular .404 Jeffery was made in numbers that far exceeded the .416 Rigby. It is a shame how a number of good cartridges (.458 win, .416 rem, etc) have suffered perhaps unjustly given modern components. HubSpot sets this cookie to keep track of the visitors to the website. You are using an out of date browser. Not all the same bullets but these were the only ones in this . Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. This cookie is set by Hubspot whenever it changes the session cookie. The 375 Weatherby Magnum could be considered a version of the "375 H&H Magnum Improved" family. The extra 340 was taken in trade, is like new and for sale. CALL 662-494-0779 or email amorris@sbfgllc.com for firearm inquiries. NOTHING SHOOTS FLATTER. The block also does not include the 375 Weatherby Magnum or the 220 Weatherby Rocket. Bolt. Too bad. They do produce more recoil, so its important to be honest when you look in the mirror: Can you shoot such a cartridge well? The former is based on the huge, proprietary .378 Weatherby case, but the latter was a derivative of the belted Holland & Holland family. 8^} reflex264. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. WEATHERBY - LEFT HANDED MARK V .378 WEATHERBY MAG. I don't know the difficulties of getting an American made custom rifle into Australia, but if it is not a big problem . . Available in 12 and 20ga., 26 and 28" barrels. furnishes. I have read this and found it very interesting. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. I hunt the big bruins with a 378 and it does a great job. However, the various lower .40s with, 400-grain bullets at roundabout 2,400 fps, produce more energyand do it with heavier bullets with greater frontal area. I would buy one. It contains the domain, initial timestamp (first visit), last timestamp (last visit), current timestamp (this visit), and session number (increments for each subsequent session). 416 Rigby 416 Taylor 450 Rigby 458 Lott 458 Win. We turned a corner and a buffalo bull stood on the bank, alone, mature, good bosses, nice curl. Anyway, the old 270 grain Spire Point at the speed of light was very impressive on deer and elk. That (given the prices) is a huge blessing!! When loaded to near Rigby velocity none of the famous shooters ever had a problem with cartridges sticking or being underpowered. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. 3 Item (s) Show: 24. Federal made the ammo, initially using Woodleigh bullets and precisely following John Rigbys formula: 410-grain bullet, 2,370 fps, 4,990 ft-lbs of energy. lbs is quite an increase in footpounds over the lott at 2300ft/sec. 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