I use an old .44 Special expanding die and purchased a .44 Russian seating die. I couldnt hit much with it and it had huge recoil, making it uncontrollable for me. .44 Special is somewhat popular for SASS/CAS (Single Action Shooting Society/Cowboy Action Shooting) events due to its wide availability of factory-loaded ammunition for this purpose. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. 44 Magnum (39) 44 Russian (3) 44 Special (36) 44-40 Winchester (9) 444 Marlin (5) 445 Super (2) 45 Acp (43) 45 Auto Rim (30) 45 Long Colt (27) 45 Schofield (7) 45-100 (1) . Even the old gunfightin' gun writers of the time often acknowledged that .44 Magnum had too much kick. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Base diameter on Russian is .457. Associated taxes and fees will be the responsibility of the winner. The S&W Model 29 was so popular that it quickly sold out, leaving customers to flock to other .44 Magnum revolvers like the Ruger Redhawk. Their Double Action top-breaks were mostly chambered in .44 Russian too. Keith eventually approached both Smith & Wesson and Remington with his idea of factory loading a hot .44-caliber for big game hunting. How are you going to get that load to feed in a rifle ? (I) Giveaway ends May 31, 2023. I know 18 such rounds came with my first S&W .44 Magnum in 1968. Reloading the .44 Russian is made easier today with the availability of .44 Magnum Carbide sizing dies. is a Navy Arms replica of a 3rd Model S&W .44 Russian. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Stand these two cartridges side by side, and the differences in dimensions seem insignificant. The Flying Ashtray was, is and will always be the sadly discontinued #4477 Speer 200g JHP. While .44 Special is more than serviceable for medium to smaller game at modest distances, the reality is .44 Magnum has such a good track record that you might as well not bother. God above all but I must admit the residing place for him must be in the heart of my wife and daughters. The 44-40 chamber is too large(about the same diameter as a 45 Colt case) and bottle necked. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.). .45 Schofield brass works better. 44-40 or 44WCF are larger diameter cases like 45 Colt cases then bottle necked to a .427 bullet. Cowboy load for .44 Magnum I started shooting with a local Cowboy Action Shooting club several months ago. The cartridge remains popular in the United States and many rounds like the 44 Special and 44 Magnum were directly influenced by it. Their 180 JHP clocked at 1,202 fps with a 1-3/8 group and the 255 Hard Cast Keith Gas Check Outdoorsman was at 1,058 fps and a 1 group. They brought the gp100 in 44 spl back a few years ago. Choice is yours. The .44 Magnum was the end result of decades of hot .44 Spl hand loads. If they feed, go for it. As a cartridge for the Hand Ejector, First Model .44 (nicknamed triplelock) they introduced a wild and crazy idea. The heavy recoil and high ammo costs have resulted in a constant supply of lightly used .44 Magnum revolvers since the 1950s. Stopping power is one of those terms that gets tossed around as shooters try to qualify the effectiveness of certain cartridges. They chambered just fine. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. The cartridge reached its prime in the 1950s, when the father of big-bore hand gunning, Keith Elmer, experimented with hotter loads and wadcutter projectiles. In 1957 the company went to model numbers with .44 Mags getting Model 29. There are many loads for both .44 Special and .44 Magnum that satisfy the FBI standard of 12 to 18 inches of penetration in ballistic gel through 4 layers of denim. In comparison, the .44 Special is softer than a newborn kitten. LRN GZN LRN GZN - Lead round nose, black antifriction coating . Box 1926, Escondido, CA 92033. Associated taxes and fees will be the responsibility of the winner. Ergo, they could tolerate more pressure. However, be aware that lever-action rifles can be fairly ammunition-sensitive. Posted: 12/7/2011 4:01:30 PM EST [#4] Quoted: I was hoping not to have to go the "try and see" route. Starline produces ready to load brass and of course any .429/.430 inch lead bullet between about 180 to 250 grains is usable. Thats why most..44 Magnum handguns have a little more heft than the typical .44 Special. Below, from left The .44 Russian, also known as the .44 S&W Russian, is a black-powder center-fire metallic revolver cartridge developed by Smith & Wesson in 1870. Some of these early factory loads had lube grooves exposed. Velocity spreads were nearly even shooting both bullets with IMR Red. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Meanwhile, the .44 Spls recoil is mild as milk. Order a Henry Single Shot online at Sportsman's Warehouse. Smith & Wesson's popular .44 Russian cartridge had established a reputation for superb accuracy and was a renowned target load, and they decided to use an improved smokeless powder version as the basis for the new round. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases. Some will get on here and say its fine to shoot .44 Special/Russian in a .44-40 cylinder and they do it all the time. The most accurate bullet Ive found in this .44 Russian is the RCBS #44-200CM over 5.0 grs. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Didn't intend to stir up a hornet's nest. Early version Amadeo-Rossi R92 SS, 1/4 cock safety. I know 18 such rounds came with my first S&W .44 Magnum in 1968. Colt chambered the Single Action Army in .44 Russian and after the .44 Special arrived they chambered for it too, marking the barrel: Russian and S&W Special .44. Colt also chambered a very few of their Model 1878 Double Action sixguns in .44 Russian and S&W, even though the Triple-Lock debuted in .44 Special, apparently had to take care of some diehards and thus a few Triple-Locks are also found chambered in .44 Russian. In short, because of .44 Magnums unwieldy recoil, .44 Special is the better choice for two-legged threats. Not only is the break-open design simple and safe, but the 44 magnum has very low recoil for the mass of the bullet with about 10-11 ft-lbs being about average. The .44 Special was almost completely replaced after .44 Mag hit the ammo scene. RN bullets over 3.8 grs. Winchesters 1899 catalog listed them at 255 gr., still roundnose. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. [2], In the early 1870s, General Alexander Gorloff, the military attach assigned to the Russian Embassy in Washington, D.C., approached Smith & Wesson about the possibility of negotiating a military sales contract for the purchase of a large number of Smith & Wesson Model 3 revolvers for the Imperial Russian Army. That way, you have the best of all worlds. JerryB II Corinthians 3:17, Now the Lord is that Spirit . So, yes, the Special is definitely a viable defensive cartridge. Attachments 44 Remington Magnum reduced target loads.doc 57.5 KB Views: 458 For info purposes only, use it at your own risk. Only a mother could love a face like yours. Associated taxes and fees will be the responsibility of the winner. First introduced in 1907, the .44 Special was notedlike its predecessorfor being controllable, accurate and potent enough for most purposes including law enforcement and sport shooting. [5], In 1872, while in the US, Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovich visited the Smith & Wesson factory to review the progress of the Russian order. There was a guy on here some years ago who regularly shot 44 Russian cases in his 44-40 Henry, using a modified carrier to feed the shorter round. Contest void where prohibited by law. On the left Factory loads carried either smokeless or black powder. Doug shot the bear and stopped the attack. Nothing spectacular happened, but you wouldn't want to reload the cases. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. The .44 Spl has been mostly kept alive by custom handloaders and cowboy action shooters. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Bill Jordan said as much in his book No Second Place Winner; as did fellow Border Patrolman Skeeter Skelton. I also shoot with a USPSA club and own many modern pistols and long arms, but acquiring the cowboy firearms could be a financial challenge. and the case is the same outside diameter. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winner(s). I have a pair of Uberti 44WCF revos and purchased two 44 Special cylinders and fitted to these revolvers and to shoot 44 Russian. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Stopping a human threat and humanely harvesting an animal are two very different things. View as Grid . of Universal for just under 760 fps and 1 groups. Less case volume. (I) Giveaway ends March 20, 2022. If recoil is a turn-off, the .44 Spl is probably the better option. much lighter than my 1911 in either 38 super or 45acp. BTW, before the Magnum was even thought of the .44 S&W Special was the Bullseye Competition Cartridge of Choice for many years. I do believe that this was due to the Russians having a round-nosed bullet design causing them to "tip" a bit from one to another as the spring pressure increased. .44 Russian, .44 Special, ..44 Magnum and 444 Marlin. Heres how the cartridge stats measure up. The .44 Spls ballistics arent too far off from the .45 ACP, which remains a popular option for both law enforcement and civilian personal defense. Both cartridges still have their places when it comes to self-defense, hunting and sport shooting, but which one will be best for you depends on the respective threat, game or sport in question. No purchase necessary. As we mentioned earlier, the effects of recoil on shooter accuracy shouldnt be denied. I've met people who wanted to shoot everything from a 38 S&W (because he could force them in the chambers) to a 38 Super (because most of them went off) in their 357 Mag revolvers. The .44 Spl has been mostly kept alive by custom handloaders and cowboy action shooters. I doubt if the round would even go off as the firing pin would hit off center. It is a particular favorite of handgun hunters because it produces faster velocities and harder-hitting energy than other cartridges with similarly-sized bullets. The Russian Army ended up ordering over 100,000 of these guns, chambered for the new "inside lubricated" .44 Russian cartridge. The humble Special got a bad rap throughout the years, overshadowed by its bigger brother, but that doesnt necessarily mean its without its uses. 416 Rem Mag; 44-40 Win; 416 Rigby; 416 Ruger; 444 Marlin; 45-60 WCF; 45-70 Government; 450 Bushmaster; . The shorter case of .44 Special can cause feeding issues in some .44 Magnum carbines (Winchesters are said to be the most prone) and not all loads will shoot to the sights. Keith partnered with Smith & Wesson and Remington Arms and the cartridge was introduced onto the market in 1956. He's just usin primers and wax. The .44 Mag uses a stretched-out .44 Spl case. Shooting 44 Specials And 44 Russians In Our 44 Magnums For That Extra Hoot FortuneCookie45LC 63.6K subscribers Subscribe 5.5K views 5 years ago The often mentioned fouling and residue buildup. of Unique yields 790 fps all from a 71/2 Colt Single Action. However, with a well-placed shot, the animal will eventually succumb to blood loss. A few years later I got a 7.5 Super Blackhawk. My first time shooting a Smith .44 Mag revolver was actually the stainless steel version, the Model 629, at the now-defunct Santa Anita Firing Range in Monrovia, California; 'twas September 1990 . Available by Appointment for Lectures on Any Topic, Quote from: PJ Hardtack on January 16, 2018, 02:48:30 PM, Quote from: Professor Marvel on January 17, 2018, 01:53:14 AM, Quote from: PJ Hardtack on January 17, 2018, 03:47:27 PM, learn from the past, or be doomed to repeat it. Yes. The choice is simple: Buy the .44 Magnum..Hand load to .22 Special specs. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. The ringleader was Elmer Keith, who worked up several handloads at the edge of what guns could tolerate, which he wrote about in his columns. Comparing the accuracy of two different cartridges is a tricky affair. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. I'm not set up for reloading .44 Russian, but I would expect that if they were flat-nosed bullets of some type the forward pressure would be more stable and the bullets wouldn't bind up. Feb 21, 2010 I have been doing it for years, its just like shooting 38 Specials in a 357 Magnum. The spread was reduced to 14 fps using wadcutters with Clays. The case head is the problem. Theres very little difference in overall length, although the .44 Spl case is about an of an inch shorter. 5. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: American Handgunner Magazine, GOM Mar/Apr 2023, P.O. Get the latest news and reviews from Gundigest.com. Even for someone of that skill level, his competition handguns are usually chambered for .38/.357 or 9mm. The load pushed that hefty projectile out the muzzle at 780 feet per second. 38 Colt Short, 38 Colt Long, 38 Special in a .357 Magnum. They changed the grip frame of the American, adding a small hump at the top of the backstrap, preventing the pistol from sliding in the hand under recoil. S&W carried the .44 Special through four remodels stopping in 1966. The genesis of the .44 Magnum was a group of tinkerers, cowboys and gun nuts who werent satisfied with factory loads. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Just FYI, I've had alot of trigger time behind a .44 mag (Smith 6.5" 629-4 Classic Hunter all different loads, from 180s to DoubleTap's 320s) and a respectable amount behind the 460XVR (8 3/8" and a little time with a 2.5" -ouch!- shooting primarily the Hornady LevRev 200gr load), and a tiny bit with a Smith 500 Mag.if anyone wondered about . Powered by Invision Community. It was named .44 S&W Special. (II) Limit one entry per household. Associated taxes and fees will be the responsibility of the winner. When the bullet makes impact, much of that kinetic energy is transferred to the target, sending concussive energy through soft tissue. 30 Super Carry; 429 DE Magnum; 8mm Lebel; 9x21mm IMI; 9x23 Win . (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. While that might not seem like a lot, that additional powder produces faster velocities, flatter trajectories, and heftier downrange energy. This can be an expensive proposition when you consider the expense of the necessary firearms. For hunting, either with a rifle or a handgun, the .44 Remington Magnum is capable of taking even the toughest game animals. Meanwhile, the .44 Spl's recoil is mild as milk. 300 Win Mag vs 338 Win Mag vs 338 Lapua Mag, 450 Bushmaster vs 458 SOCOM vs 50 Beowulf. I've been loading the 240gr over 5.5grs TiteGroup for my buddy for over 15yrs. This market demand led to the first mass-produced revolver made specifically for target competition, the S&W New Model Number 3 Target, introduced . Their story started in 1872 in what might be called an instance of Russian collusion. Box 1926, Escondido, CA 92033. Mine currently are the RCBS "cowboy" style with carbide sizing die and case mouth belling die with plug diameter of .426 inch. and .44 Magnum and refer to the Russian as the .44 Short. 3. In short, there are pros and cons to both .44 Special and .44 Magnum. .44 Russian is .429 same as .44 spl, .44 Mag. No way to know, some leverguns feed anything just fine, others make be fine with 357 mag but choke on 38 special. Some initial problems were presented with propellants, so they lengthened the case to fit a little more powder but changed little else. The .44 Magnum is more popular for metallic silhouette shooting (such as IMSSU events) given the flatter trajectory and greater power. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. Smith & Wesson engineers addressed the failings by stretching the .44 Russian case by .2 inches to increase its powder capacity. It is usually a 44 casing loaded with lead shot. The .44 Remington Magnum, also known as .44 Magnum or 10.9x33mmR (as it is known in unofficial metric designation), is a rimmed, large-bore cartridge originally designed for revolvers and quickly adopted for carbines and rifles.Despite the ".44" designation, guns chambered for the .44 Magnum round, and its parent, the .44 Special, use 0.429 in (10.9 mm) diameter bullets. A number of ammunition companies still manufacture .44 Russian ammunition: Additionally, Starline Brass makes new, unprimed cartridge cases in .44 Russian for handloaders. However, the zippier speed produced by the Magnum definitely gives it an edge in the accuracy/trajectory department. The Russian is a bit shorter, but I wouldn't mess with it anyway; as 44 Special brass is harder to find than 44 Mag, and the Russian even harder to find. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. I miss shooting them but still have a box and a half sitting on my loading bench. Contest open to U.S. residents only. No purchase necessary. Of course you can shoot a shorter round in the same caliber. Box 1926, Escondido, CA 92033. So, basically stopping power is difficult to quantify. Dubbed the S&W Model 29, it was specially designed to handle the new high-pressure loads. No substitutions or transfers to a third party are allowed. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. It typically produced a velocity of 750 feet per second with 310 foot-pounds of energy. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if needed) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Youll find revolvers and semi-auto pistols chambered in .44 Mag. Contest open to U.S. residents only. Got a few other issues to deal with .. My wife uses LFC dies in both of her 550's as well as other Lee dies, the only Dillon dies we use are the powder thru funnels so they are compatible with the powder hopper. The team at Ammo.com has collected ballistics data for both the .44 Special and .44 Magnum, so you can easily compare performance data. Contest void where prohibited by law. Deployed military should use stateside address. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Because the .44 Mag cruises about 1.5 times faster than the .44 Special, it spends less time getting to the target. You can safely shoot .44 Russian ammunition in any .44 Magnum or .44 Special revolver. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. S&W chambered the Model #3 Russian and the New Model #3, both single action top-breaks, in .44 Russian. Too much penetration in a densely populated area, or when loved ones may be on the other side of a door, can cause catastrophic collateral damage. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Velocity also affects bullets designed to deform on impact (think soft points and hollow points). It amazes me how many shooters young and old talk about their .44 Specials or .44 Magnums without having a clue as to their ancestry. They lengthened .44 Russian's case to 1.16, using the exact same 246-gr. Home; Categories. Can You Shoot .44 Special in a .44 Magnum Handgun? Experimenters such as Elmer Keith proved that a heavily loaded .44 Special was very effective on big game. I can shoot them all, except for the extra-long Russian's. ", "The .44 Special Cartridge of the Century? Named Model #3, it was chambered for the .44 Henry, same as used in Winchesters Model 1866 rifles and carbines. Deep penetration can be either a blessing or a curse, depending on the scenario. They were ballistic twins. The .44 Russian chambering became a hit in the domestic market as well, gaining a reputation as the first American revolver cartridge offering inherent accuracy. But a .44 pistol to go with it is a good thing too:thumb: I've built much of my preps around the .44 caliber. The all steel Pug has been my EDC for years. So instead of offering hotter .44 Specials, the .44 Magnum was born. Again, the new cartridge was a wonder of innovation (sarcasm intended). This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Deployed military should use stateside address. 44 Russian is typically loaded at 650 to 700 fps with a 200 grain CSWC or CLRNFP. I bought a box of .44 Russian about a year ago to answer this question regarding my Marlin 1894. 3.5 to 3.6 grains of Red Dot or Bullseye powder achieves this with very good accuracy. of energyabout equal to its . My 130 pound wife can shoot the Ruger. JFKimmons and G&G aren't liable for it's misuse. However, that extra of an inch makes for a roomier casing. FIOCCHI HERITAGE 44 S&W RUSSIAN 247 gr. Mechanical accuracy has an enormous number of variables. A single-action Ruger Blackhawk in .44 Special, a good choice for Cowboy Action shooting and similar events. No purchase necessary. Or is .44 Magnum the best cartridge in .44? However, even the scoffing macho dudes at the gun range will shoot more accurately with a milder recoiling cartridge like the .44 Spl. gp100 several years ago and doesnt list one on their site, second time that I know of. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Should I? The shank of the bullet fitting inside the brass case was smaller in diameter than the portion of the bullet in front of the case. However, this monster speed demon works well for everything from elk to black bear to two-legged predators. Yes, the 44 Special can be applied in the 44 Magnum barrel with no . Colt introduced its solid-frame, single-action Model P in 1873. First, the Rossi is a very high-quality clone and performs every bit as well as an original Model 1892. Associated taxes and fees will be the responsibility of the winner. So: The Russian Case is not going to load concentrically. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. GO BACK. Above: Samples of revolvers chambered for all three .44s. Dash Caliber Contest open to U.S. residents only. lbs). In a self-defense situation, where your children are sleeping on the other side of the wall behind the bad guy, too much penetration can have fatal consequences. A popular ammunition for recreational shooters and hunting rifle aficionados, .44 Magnum ammo combines velocity, energy and great performance. Rounds Per Box: 50 $ 49.99 Add to wishlist Add to cart 142 in stock (can be backordered) 44 Magnum Cowboy .44 Magnum in "Wells Fargo" Ammo Bag! May 23, 2013 North country gal said: Different cartridge length. Neither arrived on the revolver scene as full-blown innovations. My Colts have dual cylinders, 44-40 & Special. It was almost immediately rejected because .44 Henry was rimfire the government wanted only centerfires. To prevent the new high-pressure ammunition from being fired in .44 American revolvers with disastrous results, the overall cartridge case length was increased by .06 in to 0.970 in. Page created in 0.116 seconds with 27 queries. My comment is that .44 mag cartridges dont have to be loaded to maximum. Can a 44 magnum shoot 44 Special? Freelance double-nought spy Both are good shooters with easy to handle recoil in my old hands. For those with their hearts set on a .44-caliber handgun, the choice between special or magnum ultimately boils down to how you plan on using it. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. No powdah. Most notable were humps at the top of Model #3s grips and odd-looking spurs extending from trigger guards. The .44 Mag is a close- to mid-range cartridge. Based on the black-powder .44 Smith & Wesson Russian, the Special featured the newest, state-of-the-art smokeless powder. If you need to bust through the tough hide, bone, and muscle of a charging bear, penetration is a good thing. The .44 Special is a lengthened version of the .44 Russian cartridge, which was chambered in top-break S&W Model No. of Universal is right at 720 fps, while 5.0 grs. In late 1907 the .44 Russian sired its son, the .44 Special, and was around in late 1955 to see its grandson, the .44 Magnum arrive. There are a few reproduction single-action revolvers in .44 Special as well, typically Bisley SAA clones. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Basically, the faster a bullet is traveling when it contacts the target, the deeper it will penetrate. Personally speaking, Ive owned and handloaded for a multitude of revolvers for all three of these .44s. The .44 Mag. The .44 Smith & Wesson Special is well over a century old. not. Black Powder and the Cowboy Way. Where .44 Special shines the most in comparison to its bigger brother is having drastically less recoil. I guess there wasnt enough interest for Ruger to keep them in their lineup. Contest void where prohibited by law. Both cartridges were originally designed for big bore revolvers. Then you can use a 240 jacketed bullet and 24.8 gr of H110 to get 1400fps for a stout .44 magnum load. A 246 grain round nose lead bullet was never referred to nor does it in anyway resemble a flying ashtray. Shooters in a life-or-death self-defense situation dont have the luxury of waiting for an armed aggressor to bleed out. The difference is enormous. Hi, I have a .44 magnum carbine and I love it! You may be thinking of the 44 Magnum or the 44 Special, they will both chamber the 44 Russian, as it is the parent round of both. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Handgun Cowboy Action Maybe you're involved with formal, sanctioning organizations for Cowboy Action shooting. . Dubbed the New Century, Smith & Wesson designed their new revolver as a nostalgic hat-tip to the big-bore black-powder sidearms (like the Colt Army Revolver) that tamed the American West. Contest void where prohibited by law. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. But as I loaded them into the tube I ran into trouble. YES every one should have at one .44 special, I had an early Charters Arms Target Bulldog, it was stolen and now I carry a Taurus 431. Something's got to give. Anybody have any info and/or experience as to using 44 Russian in 44/40 revolversAside from the argument as to whyLooks like it would work finebut I like my face like it is..not full of cylinder pieces.. Won't work and very dangerous. First model .44 Russian Model #3s looked identical to the companys .44 Americans, but soon the Russians wanted some changes. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. However, it may be necessary to shorten a .44 Magnum/.44 Special expanding die as well as a seater/crimper die to be able to reach the relatively short .44 Russian case. VTI has Uberti 44 special cylinders for $110 each. No substitutions or transfers to a third party are allowed. It is also easy to find fresh brass for both cartridges. Both are good for bowling pin shoots, though you'll get faster splits using .44 Special. Some .44 Magnum sixguns will shoot the shorter .44 Special loads well while others give mediocre performance. God, Liberty. Thus was born the S&W .44 Russian, and henceforth the .44/100 was called .44 American. You can also find .44 Mag bolt-action, break-action, semi-automatic, and lever rifles. Heres the early .44 Smith & Wesson cartridges, (left to right) .44 American, Russian and Special. Its also a favorite of cowboy action shooters and makes a fun plinking tool. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winner(s). (In fact, they'll chamber the .44 Special cartridges.) The gentler .44 Special is definitely easier to control, especially when it comes to making accurate follow-up shots. The .44 Magnum is more popular for metallic silhouette shooting (such as IMSSU events) given the flatter trajectory and greater power. I don't paint bullets. If all that cowboy has ever seen is a stockdam, he ain't gonna believe ya when ya tell him about whales. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. Colt and everyone else that makes single actions frequently offer dual cylinder models in .44/40 and .44 Special. The .44 Russian was not only important for what it was but also for what it became. The Flying Ashtray was, is and will always be the sadly discontinued #4477 Speer 200g JHP. You can get away with a much lighter firearm with .44 sp. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 44 Russian in a 44 Mag. The biggest difference I see between a .44 special revolver and a .44 mag is the weight of the firearm. . More calibers. View all 44 Russian Auto ammunition and bulk 44 Russian ammo for sale! The .44 Special was the preferred cartridge for this task, as there were more varied projectiles made for it, and the revolvers of the daysuch as the S&W Triple Lock, Colt New Service and SAAhad thicker cylinder walls in .44 than in .45 Colt. Is it absolutely necessary to have a .44 Russian chambered cylinder or will the .44 Special work just fine with Russian brass? The 44 Special fired a 246gr bullet at 755fps. SWC with a gas check. Associated taxes and fees will be the responsibility of the winner. Good grief! Box 1926, Escondido, CA 92033. . Purchase A PDF Download Of The American Handgunner July/August 2018 Issue Now! 'Ve been loading the 240gr over 5.5grs TiteGroup for my buddy for over 15yrs onto the in! 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