I will definitely admit that it was very sloppy and not well researched. You don't have to to forgive them for the blackface but I see far too much misinformation being spread and everyone just take as word. }); }); Our hearts on fire . On top of that, they bash the fans saying we overlook everything and that Mamamoo should have been cancelled by now. No it doesnt excuse what theyve said, but its likely that they have changed, which is something everybody does and it should be embraced. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), So girls have to be skinny and boys can be Taken aback by their remarks, Shindong quickly explained, Im just saying. I very strongly believe that people can change and one action doesnt define them for the rest of their life, and if I dont include an apology in a post, its always going to be because I didnt know they apologised. The song itself did not originally contain the word, but the lyrics Hwasa was using were taken off the Melon website, which did. I cant undo posting it, but I regret it and Im really, genuinely sorry for spreading incorrect information and for any of the fans I upset. kpop problematic carrd! We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. Trust me when I say that most of the people who whine about mamamoo blackface are non-black people , I've seen a lot of black MooMoos who have forgiven them since the apology , but a lot of non black kpop fans wear it on their neck like it actually affected them in the first place , I may be the only one who thinks this way but American Kpop fans act very arrogantly when it comes to mamamoo a controversy. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Hwasa's most recent callout stemmed from her latest comeback with the track 'Maria', a song that delved into her own struggles with mental health and being on the receiving end of severe hate. ga('ads.send', { Recently the show aired a special live on the YouTube channel of I Live Alone. Mamamoo is not the most problematic group ever I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people (so being black) I decided to some research to find out. I will try to work on this in the future because I dont want to portray idols as villains when theyre not actually responsible for what has happened (e.g. Whew, Im sorry for the long post haha. And this links back to other instances of Hwasa being called out for cultural appropriation, the most recent being her wearing what appeared to be a traditional Nigerian outfit on the MBC show 'I Live Alone'. I think this is one thing that remains somewhat undecided but considering Baekhyuns track record, I wouldnt put it past him tbh. Others were soon reminding Hwasa once again of her past mistakes, including wearing blackface along with the rest of Mamamoo in a performance where they were parodying Bruno Mars. Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. They never went into these situations with the intent of hurting or offending anyone. hitType: 'event', Im aware people hold stuff against suju quite a lot, especially in comparison to other problematic groups like BigBang and 2NE1, who I rarely see get criticised, but that doesnt counteract the fact that suju have messed up before (because theyre human beings). Good night @noobmaster89 and solar cult. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. }); Also I see hate being normalised and even being defended its not hard if u don't want to forgive them then just ignore or block all mentions of them. pg.acq.push(function() { Not speaking Korean and being confused about whats true and what isnt? And while her more recent missteps are nowhere near what she has done in the past, they still, nonetheless, fall in the realm of what many consider offensive. but this stuff isnt discussed when it comes to suju - people take anything and make it problematic for members who havent done things like kangin, shindong, leeteuk, and yesung, and then just throw it around to defend their favorites. The post isnt supposed to be the be-all-and-end-all of offensive super junior. The other day it was revealed that two major idols were dating, and before I had even seen the news article, I was in a Mamamoo fan group-chat, and someone sent out the link of the dating news with their comment under being, be on high alert for hwasas tags. Someone texted back, Its about to get worse, they will try to trend another hate tweet. The group officially debuted with their single "Mr. Ambiguous" on June 18, 2014. Hope that all made sense! document.querySelector("#adunit").addEventListener('click',function(){ Apink made an exciting appearance on the recent July 1 episode of SNL Korea, but one of the show's skits featuring member Bomi has caused a wave of backlash among fans and viewers. To be honest, I wish Id made the suju post more like the exo one, because the exo one included a lot of the stuff people are criticising me for leaving out of this one. or for the life of me find it again so this is unsourced for the time being. Mamamoo has been dubbed by a lot, especially by antis as one of the most controversial groups in the history of kpop. Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Purple Backs) Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Mint Backs) CD version comes with 3 photocards. offensive/misogynistic comments to his Cyworld account, Kai was in charge of skin color in the group, my noona is a little on the tanned side, no wonder why you guys acted like you were so close with each other, I thought the lights were not entering over there, said that he has Kai saved as Blackie in his phone contacts, in a pre-debut video with a hard -er at the end, how can you say something that doesnt even make sense?, Chanyeol asked Kai if he wanted to lighten his skin, Dont misunderstand us. When I say this, the person might think, Look whos talking, but I would reply, Im a boy and youre a girl, To this, both Kim Shin Young and announcer Gu Eun Young retorted, Why does gender matter in this situation? okay so before i start this list, i just wanna clarify: i am an exo stan. i just dont love all the stuff they say/do. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? Coming in at last place is the debut single of NMIXX, O.O.This song now also holds the distinction of having the lowest average in the history of KSOTY. Notifications can be turned off anytime from browser settings. Firstly, Im fairly sure I missed stuff, but also, a lot of it is somewhat interpretational. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. JavaScript is disabled. ga('ads.send', { That doesnt make it okay and it doesnt mean it cant be just as harmful, but considering they are nearly always the victims of such colorist comments, it is somewhat different to when they come from somebody else who is unaffected by them. You must understand that Asians are very very different from non asians in terms of being conservative, preferring lighter skin and saying that theh are not gay. And despite Hwasa's fans attempting to set the record straight through her own apologies and explanations, the hashtag continued to be used by many to troll the idol. For me, I think controversies and hate are just the unfortunate and difficult side that comes with being an idol. And yes I did make an exo masterpost, heres a link. }); One of the latest developments in recent times, that is currently drawing attention on online communities such as Nate/Pann and Twitter is the promotional period of K-Pop groups/soloists. This brings us now to the true reason for this article. Regardless, a fan who thinks that its not a problem isnt going to hold it against Heechul, the point of the post isnt to make you hate the idols (Heechul is literally one of my ultimate biases) its just supposed to be informative. I didnt mean for this to spiral into an argument at all and I didnt post the post with malicious intent, though I know the intent doesnt matter all that much and that I did make mistakes. Joined: Sep 2021 #1. You need to Register or Login to view the content I feel like stepping back will give me more time to learn and expand my horizons and less time to speak on topics I dont actually know much about. Solar Moonbyul Wheein Hwasa Results are only viewable after voting. 1,068. Im ironically bad at dealing with conflict, which might make some people question why I started this blog (it was actually an accident, long story), but Ive tried not to let it affect my running of this blog. } problematickpop:. I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. if(document.querySelector("#google_image_div")){ Thats not fair to them at all and makes absolutely no sense. You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. If it had just been misheard or a mistranslation, why would they censor it? the Eunhyuk WGM thing being scripted). I wholeheartedly accept that I messed up on this and Im really sorry, because I feel like I sort of have a responsibility not to spread misinformation and thats exactly what I did. From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. So I decided to forgive them cause myself personally thinks that they tried to show love to Bruno Mars which is apparently one of their fav artist by doing a vcr of their songs but stupidity and very ignorantly decided to dark their skin to match his and his dancers. Nobody is saying you cant like these idols, everybody messes up at some point, but dont call other people sensitive just because you might have a higher tolerance level. Yes, I should have included things such as dates. Daily persecution? Solar will previal . Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? As Ive said before, Im not a muslim, and I was just going off of what Id seen other muslim bloggers say. In fact, I really like them. And then later on she includes a list of problematic things that her favourite (boy) group has done and it's literally 3x as long. For the segment, the three followed outfits . It's really difficult to see the hate towards these girls when I see how hard they had to struggle to climb up the ladder when they came from such a small company but I do believe they'll prevail and work hard to improve themselves as they've always been doing since 2014 . The whole thing was carelessly done and not very thorough. Explore the latest videos from hashtags: #mamamooproblematic, #mamamooegotistic, #mamaproblematica, # . Mamamoo isn't problematic. Yes I should have included more context. Im simply complying a list of things that could be perceived as offensive or problematic so that fans can decide for themselves. Im not Korean and I dont live in Korea so Im not comfortable talking about Korean social norms or anything like that, but colorism and homophobia are still bad and damaging things. In order to do that, I must describe the actions Mamamoo has done in the past that received the most vocal and widespread backlash, and then explain what happened as a result. The show is about celebrities living their daily life alone. And please send me a link when you upload the video, Id be interested in seeing your translation. If a celebrity said something homophobic 5 years ago but is now a huge activist in the lgbtq+ community, its likely that they were just ignorant and have learned since. Their interactions with their fans and staff members are so sweet and genuine, and they do their best to be inclusive of everyone (like Wheein taking her time to speak to a deaf fan and doing some sign language, Hwasa going on the floor to sign a fan's cast---the list goes on). Threads: 200. (especially since hes never repeated anything like that.). hey uh, not a lot of people are anyway (thankfully), but Id really appreciate it if people could stop reblogging the super junior post I made, thatd be fab ty. (Photo : Mr. Kim) Apink Chorong was a school bully, New recordings and evidence Revealed [+1,956, -53] As expected, the entertainment industry is filled with kids with such dirty personalities~~~~~. As Ive said before, I dont know everything, and I try to provide sources for what I post, but Im a bit cynical and I can sometimes put too much trust into what other people say, so please, please, please call me out if you notice me spreading misinformation (it will always be appreciated) and I will update the masterpost. When you choose to spend that privilege constantly mocking and harassing people online, well, karma's going to come back to you, in some form or another. I dont know how familiar you are with vixx, but N is constantly put down by hisfriends about his appearance (specifically his skin color) and one of the things Kangin criticised him for was his self confidence, which honestly, was really, really rude and definitely uncalled for. Red Velvet too. The last thing repeatedly referenced against Hwasa is the fact that she wore a durag on Queendom during Mamamoos Good Luck performance. ", which culture did u enjoy appropriaing the most #AskHwasapic.twitter.com/x6WYr2VeJa, Can we have a spoiler? So to me Mamamoo isn't the most problematic groups, they are one of the every few kpop groups that take criticism and acknowledge it and learn from it. Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. I found out that they did blackface which is disgusting and heartbreaking cause I really liked them so I stewed on it for a few days and looked again and found that they had apologised that same day 2x and that they also apologised in person the next day concert. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and I'm very aware that suju aren't exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isn't very up-to-date) I thought I'd make a super junior masterpost since I'm a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans . However, this became a lot more unlikely when a second video was released, titled censored version, which did not include the supposed autism comment. I just always feel the need to resolve something when I get into it and I could see where you were coming from (plus you made some valid criticisms) so I thought Id explain myself. A lot of it is about perspective, and privilege, but also some people have lower tolerance levels than other people. Yes theres a chance it was scripted (something I didnt include originally but will add) but since we arent sure, I included it anyway. This page was loaded Sep 23rd 2021, 9:34 pm GMT. So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. My mom would like to know" while another asked, "Is mama Africa a good name for you? [3] ga('ads.send', { I included links to everything that was on the list (some of which had been deleted - another thing I messed up on big time) and with certain things, I did include a bit of extra information (e.g. Ive heard Moomoos are known as fairly passive, but its also why they are known as some of the most accepting and even better behaved fans. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy K-pop stans w/o any receipts. We're celebrities too but we're human first.". The point is to provide information about things which could be perceived as offensive so that fans can decide for themselves whether or not they feel comfortable continuing to support the idols. when in retrospect it really wasnt my place to do so and I want to say Im really, sincerely sorry about that. not excusing it or defending, but Henry was a little boy from Canada, and that kind of fan service is really odd in general to the West, Id hardly call that problematic. Everyone, dont think of dirty thoughts!, negative comment about Taos skin being dark, cant be too chubby/fat and must have a nice body, He has darker skin than me, doesnt he?, in general, youre skin looks better if you have a lighter skin tone. I messed up, a lot, and I honestly do regret making the post. For example, Ryeowook is another suju member I really like, and I dont agree with him using a picture of Yesung in blackface as his twitter icon whatsoever, I think it was incredibly offensive and insensitive and ignorant, but its not something that has caused me to dislike him. And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. It really does hurt reading them, crazy to know about the double standards too :((. People are accusing me of purposefully portraying all the members on the list as villains and not including their apologies. Honestly, I would want the person that I love to be more pretty or more handsome., Culturally appropriated a Native American headdress. ", Where did you get ur African auntie outfit from?? I can definitely understand where youre coming from and why you sounded defensive. In this video, they wore blackface. Non fans for all the questions, suggestions, reviews, anything. yeah Id probably classify myself as a pacifist, thought I understand the use of violence in self defence or sports that require violence (MMA, boxing, etc.). asked one user while another tweet read, "Dark skin or brown skin men? It would be easy to point to other fandoms and how they have been problematic at times but that's not helpful and just continues a cycle of hate. Probation Faker. hitType: 'event', 4) I included the hijab thing for Heechul because I saw muslim fans point it out and say that it made them uncomfortable. please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. but its hard not to be. #1. Mamamoo ( Korean : , stylized in all caps) [2] is a South Korean girl group formed by RBW (formerly WA Entertainment) in 2014, composed of four members: Solar, Moon Byul, Whee In and Hwa Sa. Most of the controveries are from a while back (solar imitating her senior, the strawberry jam song). Threads: 138. You are entitled to your own opinion, and if what Mamamoo has done is considered too ignorant or rude for you to support them anymore, that is 100% in your right to not excuse them for it. Yes. I hear people say that she added it in to a song that didn't have it on purpose but that version is on Melon. pg.acq.push(function() { Threads: 0. ga('ads.send', { The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. Another thing is my mental health. Hwasa is an idol who isn't afraid to be herself. It's just crazy how haters can twist every single thing. I love mamamoo their song i miss you is what got me into them as that song made me really sad but their songs hit different and Moonbyul is such a tomboy and i love her, I love how Moonbyul dominates this poll lmao, Moonbyul isnt even my bias anymore but I cant switch my vote so yep go dominate girl. when Lay said, When asked about his ideal type, said that she, He and Chen chose Kai and Tao as the members they wouldnt want to date if they were girls, when Chen was explaining why, Xiumin interrupted him and saidThey both have a similarity, theyre both tanned (, Posted a photograph of him in a face mask on Weibo and captioned it, Apparently there were some old online comments from Baekhyuns cyworld account where he called girls at his High School sluts but I cant find any screenshots, Chanyeol and Baekhyun apparently admitted to teasing the Chinese members at first for their pronunciation/korean and acted somewhat cold towards them, though I cannot find a source for this, Many people have said Chanyeol said his ideal type would have white/pale skin but I cant find a source on that so Im not sure, Some people have told me that Kris is sexist/misogynistic but I cant find anything about this online, I also vaguely remember seeing a picture of exo which one of the members wrote comments on and there was something about Kais skin being dark but I cant remember who it was (possibly Kai himself?) They wont know the nuances of why what they did is offensive to us and thats why we tell them. my bias is varied between moonbyul and solar Hip is one of my most played songs ever You must log in or register to reply here. 6)not excusing it or defending it but [continues to make an excuse for Henry] Sorry, but yes, you are trying to make up excuses for him. Her wig: Now I can understand how it can be seen as cultural appropriation. To preface, I love Mamamoo (obviously haha - otherwise I wouldnt be subbed to this community, I guess! They apologized. Offensive Super Junior Masterpost. To discuss the bullying and harassment Mamamoo now receives daily, we must first lay out what originally brought out all the hate. Honestly there is nothing wrong with what they said. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), They expect idols to be the wokest people out there because theyre celebrities when in reality theyre just the product of their colorist society. If you haven't, let me enlighten you. Please think before you write these messages. And that isnt even getting into the worst of it. If you think ive missed anything please send me a message but dont forget to try to include a source! Another thing referenced against Hwasa is the occasion she dressed up as a clown. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I only made the post because Ive personally received asks about whether or not there is a Super Junior master post and whether specific members have done anything, and thought itd be easy to compile a list, seeing as thats sorta what this blog is for. They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. People always said they do so much CA and I tried to find some examples but the only one that again seemed to be twisted was them appropriating Indian culture during AZE GAG but that was misconstrued as it was about Buddhism not Hindu culture even the line is the song is about Buddhism and one of the members is Buddhist so I don't have a massive issue with it. Because of mistakes that they've made out of ignorance, mistakes that they've apologized for. 1. eventAction: 'click_adunit' I dont really want this published but Im Korean and I just watched the SISTAR video and the translations are pretty accurate, Hyorin was trying to say how bora has all black fashion and her hair and black complexion adds on to it, and I felt that too (soyu was trying to suggest that hyorin had darker skin than bora so hyorin shouldnt talk about anyone elses skin color) so hyorin was like yeah but at least I dont wear black clothes like bora! if(document.querySelector("#adunit")){ Its quite a big responsibility looking after this blog and Im not sure my wellbeing can take that on top of my workload and personal problems. ga('ads.send', { and I know it would've been much, much lower if I didn't force y'all to give the NMIXX songs an average of at least 3.00. Shaun of @shaun_vids on Twitter said recently in response to another girl's hate storm against her that mirrors the exact same patterns as Mamamoo's, If someone does something worthy of criticism, and that criticism is then directly delivered thousands of times by different people (a section of whom will go much too far and be genuinely abusive), it all just merges into abuse in the perception of the one being criticised.. The media and antis take things and blow it way out of proportion. 1) I made this post because Ive seen people actively asking about what things suju have done and whether we have a masterpost, this wasnt supposed to be a resource for people to use to justify their hate for suju, however if a person does hate suju because of things members have said/done that is up to them. This resulted in people calling her out as dressing like a black stereotype, and complaining that she was even wearing blackface again, despite the fact that she had no heavily darker makeup on, and was simply rocking her naturally darker skin. Joined: Mar 2022 #5. 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 They debuted on June 19, 2014 with the mini album Hello . This was such a good response. Lose some weight, why cant you take care of yourself. I have no reason not to trust the 2 Korean-speaking people whove come forward and told me it isnt a mistranslation? My mom would like to know #AskHwasa, is mama africa a good name for you? Im glad that people find this blog useful and Im glad some of the posts have helped raise awareness and educate people about the offensive things idols do, but this blog requires a lot of time and energy and knowledge that I just dont have. But- and heres the but- not forgiving them is no excuse for repeated bullying, harassment, and worse. They removed the video from the ending of their concert shows and Mamamoo also personally apologized at their following concert to anyone who could have been affected by their previous actions. I really dislike fat girls. 5) Again, I included the Kangin thing because I have seen a huge amount of fans get upset by it. She was singing song lyrics from Melon (a Spotify-type South Korean streaming website), lyrics that had the n-word in them. Maybe ive just checked really bad websites. eventAction: 'view' Mamamoo is perhaps most widely-known for writing their own music, their electric stage presence, and constant ad-libs often thrown in to make each stage as unique as it can possibly be. Compare this to some other idol groups with rabid fanbases, any controversy and they're ready to defend their idols to the point of issuing death threats to the critiques. They have been affectionately dubbed festival queens as they attend a great many every year, always ready to hype up the crowd and turn every event into a Mamamoo concert. Why? . eventAction: 'click_image_ads' Im not trying to run away from anything, if you have issues with any of the things I say or do (because I am privileged in certain aspects) please dont feel afraid to bring them up! disclaimer: i am NOT trying to cancel any of the idols on this list, just calling them out. There are so many kids in the . It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). And when a few Moos did call other fandoms out on their abusive tweets, the response that night was majority she deserves it, or most common answer: its just a joke. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. Villain. Have they done offensive and hurtful things in the past? Above all, however, Mamamoo is a power-vocal group and strongly celebrated for it, even winning Favorite Vocal Artist at both the 2018 and 2019 MAMAs. ourbridgeisforever:. Like everyone says here, it will never excuse their actions but if we can see them grow and learn from their mistakes I'll always be there to support them. We always seem to be so hard to celebrities, especially idols, when they fuck up yet we're never there to congratulate them once we see them grow and change. Please feel free to contact me if you think Im missing anything! Group. Ngl I let out a couples laughs tho. And the answer is simple: Hwasa has been their scapegoat for years now. i am so so tired. Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in, When a male fan said Saranghae (I love you) to him, he responded by going, Made the picture of Yesung in blackface his, Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes in which Kyuhyun retorted, Said that Kais defining feature was that his, Then proceeded to say Taos face color is dark because its green at 23:11 of the same, Assigned gummy bears to Exo-K members and, In the same interview, Kai sort of called him out on his colorism/shadism and Chanyeol said , Used a caricature app to make the Exo members and created, When Xiumin chose him as first place after being asked which exo member hed date if he were a girl, he saidIt feels pretty good to be in first place, but it is first place from the viewpoint of a male but then said a few seconds laterThis first place feels a little its a good thing! Idol who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend why you defensive... 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